LETS KILL THOSE MOFOS

u're noobs.

Listen up to me: atm have only 1 way to kill 4HM. And this's NOT classic tactic!!!!!!!

I dont tell u this info here in forum coz wont to share from some members to WiP.

But ClassLeaders - /w Kacmopka for info. I can tell u only in private!

If u wanna kill - dear CL start whispering.

We know of your tactic kac, some of us disagree with this way of killing though, since the mechanic of the tactic is way off from the original, it's bound to be fixed after the first kill by using this.
Which renders all our practice on that useless, and makes us have to start over again.

Ye ,Xelth is right , we are not abusers and i rather prefer if we kill them with original tactic ...

without crotch and without at least a few of our more experienced members coming back I don't see us trying 4h anytime soon...hate to kill the mood here but I think we need to focus on getting our naxx raids back to the point where they were a few months ago...do we even have 4 tanks with good gear?

IMO we need crotch because he's a good talker...nukle isn't...and it's gonna take a lot of talking and coordination to get things just right...

as far as tanks go ...fair enough, I thought we needed t3 tanks for a try...and if they don't really hit hard then for sure I'm always up for giving it a try...I just don't think we can get a good solid raid for it overall. When was the last time we killed loatheb or gothik? We have a ton of new people in the guild right now who still need to learn a lot of stuff

Wait , if I remember correctly ... problem about 4hm were like mark applying range and hp right ? Well I can't be sure if we were right about mark applying range but y I agree that they had alot of hp ... now even that is fixed(we haven't see then yet) and we should check it out at least .

@ Herp : Bro , I know that I am not good talker and sometimes I blame myself for that , but you should try that at least once to see how it looks . And about Crotch I really respect him but sometimes I didn't liked his explanation because he talked to fast .

Finally as answer on this topic I will agree with idea to get to 4hm this week .... You all know that we can . From some videos that I saw tactic for 4hm is nothing special just we need to practice positioning and coordination like we did for c'thun , and all older members know how much we needed for killing c thun . If I remember correctly we needed like 4 weeks , correct me if I am wrong .

So as conclusion please read tacts and check some old videos of 4hm killing on official servers . I saw even t1 tank was and offtank on Lady B . Check Memento Mori's kill .

i wont abus...
i've got info about approach guild Mesmerize and about thier conclusions.
and i wont typing this info on the forum.

@Kacm: do not trust russian
I support the idea of ​​trying to start doing 4hm because its more fun than sitting on one placa and pwn 11 in Naxx + C'Thun. it is time to once again feel the excitement of battle

im down for whatever when im back :D x

When we in Memento Mori killed 4HM we had a few tanks who still had T1 and we used to position them on LadyB due to her spell casting. But the top 4 tanks must always be on Thane or Mograine. Another issue on this fight is to conserve mana - heal only when it is needed. As far as DPS and tanking goes - mitigation / consumables is the best way to spare stress on the healers and thier mana.

You are also right about the positions, they take time to learn but once you got them down the fight will be a lot more clear.

t1/t2 is enough for 4 horsemen but the main problem is u need taunt them and sometimes get resisted so u need 4/9 t3 for fix it